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General Category => PC Upgrade and Repair => Topic started by: midnight_blue on October 06, 2010, 12:04:03 PM

Title: pc dying the death
Post by: midnight_blue on October 06, 2010, 12:04:03 PM: hi, my pc is slowly on it's way out...a sad time indeed...will look to replace it this month, but have a limited budget...advice most welcome, I am not a pc boffin, so any info must be in engrish as our friend Eric would say...I have a budget of no more than £700...am lost when it comes to i5 or i7 or AMD let alone choosing a video card, though I understand that the 5850 appears to be a good one...answers on a postcard as they say...would also need to factor in the cost of the logitech G15 keyboard and G9 mouse - if I buy this thing, I will want to start the killing immediately!! Daniel.
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: midnight_blue on October 06, 2010, 02:54:07 PM: Have I found the one? the spec for one pc is as follows - any thoughts?

CPU AMD Phenom II X4 955 (4 x 3.2 GHz) AM3 8MB - Black Edition
CPU Heatsink AMD Heatsink & Fan - Low Noise
Memory 4GB PC-6400 800 MHZ (2 x 2 GB) (DDR2)
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 - 1 GB - DVI/VGA/HDMI/DP (XFX)
Motherboard Asus M2N68-AM 2000MT/s (NVIDIA 7025)
Sound Card Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer 7.1 V2 (PCI)
Networking Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready)
USB Ports 10 x USB 2.0 Ports
Power Supply 650W PSU
Case Wiring Professional Standard
Hard Drive #1 1 TB (1000 GB) SATA-II HDD UDMA 300 7200 32MB
Hard Drive #2 160 GB SATA-II HDD 7200 8MB
Optical Drive #1 Samsung (SH-S223L) DVD +/- RW 24x - Black - Lightscribe (SATA)
Card Reader Internal Card Reader 50-in-1
Floppy Drive Floppy Disk Drive 1.44 MB - Black
Operating System #1 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 BIT (Genuine DVD & COA Included)
Security Software Norton Internet Security 2010 (1 Year - 1 PC License)
Backup Software Windows Backup
Keyboard Standard Slim Keyboard (PS/2)
Mouse Logitech G9X Gaming Laser Mouse (USB)
Mouse Mat Razer Goliathus Omega Gaming Mouse Mat Fragged (Speed)

All for the princely sum of £800! I want to be able to play 2142, BBC2 and COD, and need it to be atleast current...
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: butt on October 06, 2010, 04:16:29 PM: I'll have a look at the specs later tonight or tomarrow.

At a quick glance, part of it looks good, but I would want ddr3 for a new build. ddr2 800mhz is pretty old stuff.

Also, what is the exact make/model of the power supply?

If this is a prebuilt, post a link to this offer.

EDIT:

Had a look at the mobo, and its not so great... If your going to go quad core, then dont skimp on a lessor mobo that will limit things w/ the ddr2 ram.

Prebuilt systems are generally dated hardware sold at a premium price. Best option is to build your own. Dont worry if you've never done it before, its pretty darn easy. If your up to the task, you'll save a fair chunk of cash.

Eric, do you guys have newegg (or simular) over there?
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: Eric on October 06, 2010, 04:34:37 PM: Yep Midnight as Butt said.
Different memory and bigger power supply. I would also change the video card to a 5770.

Have U thought about building it yourself.?

Anyways, Have a look here.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=43&catid=1444 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=43&catid=1444)

I buy most of my bits @ Overclockers.

Take you time and U will get the selection right.
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: Unforgiven75 on October 06, 2010, 04:59:15 PM: Hey midnight,
I built my new system a couple months ago with the following:
AMD Phenom II x 4 965 3.40GHz Black Edition
4 Gig DDR3 Patriot 1333 MHz RAM
Windows 7 64 Bit
Logitech G-15 Keyboard and MX518 Optic gaming mouse
Corsair 650 Watt Power supply
ASUS DS Xnoar Audio Card
EVGA Geforce CTX 465 1GB 256 bit GDDR5 Video card
800 GB Western Digital HD
a couple DVD ROMS
I got all my items from Newegg.com. Maybe surf around there and compare items and price.
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: Balistics101 on October 06, 2010, 05:22:55 PM: Quote from: Unforgiven75 on October 06, 2010, 04:59:15 PM
Hey midnight,
I built my new system a couple months ago with the following:
AMD Phenom II x 4 965 3.40GHz Black Edition
4 Gig DDR3 Patriot 1333 MHz RAM
Windows 7 64 Bit
Logitech G-15 Keyboard and MX518 Optic gaming mouse
Corsair 650 Watt Power supply
ASUS DS Xnoar Audio Card
EVGA Geforce CTX 465 1GB 256 bit GDDR5 Video card
800 GB Western Digital HD
a couple DVD ROMS
I got all my items from Newegg.com. Maybe surf around there and compare items and price.

How much was the total cost if you remember?

-balistics101 ; Gen.Matt.101 ; FreedomForEver
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: midnight_blue on October 07, 2010, 12:25:16 PM: does this spec soundany better?

Case: STYLISH PIANO BLACK ENIGMA MICRO-ATX CASE + 2 FRONT USB
Processor (CPU): AMD PHENOM II X2 555 (3.20GHz/6MB CACHE/AM3) - BLACK EDITION
Motherboard: ASUS® M4A78LT-M: mATX MAINBOARD, DDR3, USB 2.0, SATA 3.0Gb/s
Memory (RAM): 4GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 2GB)
Graphics Card: 768MB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX460 GDDR5 PCI EXPRESS - DirectX® 11
Hard Disk: 1TB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
DVD: 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Memory Card Reader: INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply & Case Cooling: 450W Quiet 80 PLUS Dual Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£29)
Processor Cooling: STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Sound Card: Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ Xtreme Gamer (£68)
Network Facilities: ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB Options: 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Floppy Disk Drive: EXTERNAL 1.44MB USB FLOPPY DISK DRIVE (£14)
Operating System: Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Keyboard & Mouse: Logitech® G15 Gaming Keyboard with Gamepanel LCD Display (£65)
Mouse: Logitech® G9x Laser Gaming Mouse (£59)
all for £750'ish from pcspecialists
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: Unforgiven75 on October 07, 2010, 07:32:31 PM: Quote from: Balistics101 on October 06, 2010, 05:22:55 PM
Quote from: Unforgiven75 on October 06, 2010, 04:59:15 PM
Hey midnight,
I built my new system a couple months ago with the following:
AMD Phenom II x 4 965 3.40GHz Black Edition
4 Gig DDR3 Patriot 1333 MHz RAM
Windows 7 64 Bit
Logitech G-15 Keyboard and MX518 Optic gaming mouse
Corsair 650 Watt Power supply
ASUS DS Xnoar Audio Card
EVGA Geforce CTX 465 1GB 256 bit GDDR5 Video card
800 GB Western Digital HD
a couple DVD ROMS
I got all my items from Newegg.com. Maybe surf around there and compare items and price.

How much was the total cost if you remember?

-balistics101 ; Gen.Matt.101 ; FreedomForEver

Hey Blalist.. I had just under $1,000 in everything, Case and all
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: Balistics101 on October 07, 2010, 10:16:38 PM: I found a configuration that is 459$ (WITHOUT- MONITOR, WINDOWS 7 , AND KEYBOARD AND MOUSE,) and that is faster and cheaper. KNOWING that Midnight still has a monitor and a working keyboard it should be as simple as this http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD_Dual_Core_Configurator/ (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD_Dual_Core_Configurator/)

I trust the site. Customize it to your needs.
-or you can browse that web site for different one's but thats as good as it gets for the speed of that computer. If you don't want to mess with building your own.
I recommend you use pick the 500 watt or more if and only if you see that computer as a opportunity.

other sites-
http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=157 (http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=157)
http://deals.magicmicro.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=1996 (http://deals.magicmicro.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=1996)
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: butt on October 07, 2010, 10:50:59 PM: Case $35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147109 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147109)
Mobo $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128414 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128414)
P. Supply $55 (MIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017)
CPU $195 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036)
RAM $73 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260)
H.Drive $65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319)
O/S $99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754)
GPU $125 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150462 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150462)
DVDx2 $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106334 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106334)
Card Reader $13 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820132016 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820132016)

Sorry, never understood how to post a pubic wish list @ newegg. You'll have to ckick the links. I'll post my view tomarrow, as it late. By my math, this is around $780 US. The Pound equilivant is 488.351 GBP
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: midnight_blue on October 08, 2010, 09:51:31 AM: hi, please do not shoot me down in flames, but following their advice and yours (all of you) I have ended up getting the following:

Case: STYLISH PIANO BLACK ENIGMA CASE + 2 FRONT USB
Processor (CPU): AMD PHENOM II X4 955 (3.20GHz/8MB CACHE/AM3) - BLACK EDITION
Motherboard: ASUS® M4A87TD/USB3: DUAL DDR3,SATA 6.0GB/s, USB 3.0
Memory (RAM): 4GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 2GB)
Graphics Card: 1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX460 GDDR5 PCI EXPRESS - DirectX® 11
Hard Disk: 1TB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive: 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply & Case Cooling: 600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)
Processor Cooling: SUPER QUIET 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEATPIPE CPU COOLER (£19)
Sound Card: ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities: ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB Options: 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Operating System: Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)

I will be returning to add in the card reader...hopefully this will help me catch you all up a bit...the cost is just over £700...
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: Eric on October 08, 2010, 10:27:22 AM: Good luck with the new Comp.

I am sure u will enjoy it. :)
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: midnight_blue on October 08, 2010, 11:49:53 AM: I would like to thank everyone - especially Eric for your time and effort in helping me find a new machine...if it looks like I have gone against your advice, please do not see this as an insult...the one I am getting is within my budget, and more importantly, will not upset my fiancee too much - LOL. I have noticed that I should be able to pick up the logitech keyboard and mouse from Ebay of all placces!! though quite taken with the MX518...I will keep trying to get into the game, but my current PC has to be switched on and off up to a dozen times as it continually crashes...please bear with me...Kind regards, Daniel.
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: butt on October 08, 2010, 12:14:39 PM: congratz. I am sure you'll be blown away by the graphics upgrade when you play a game that has advanced features. ;D
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: Groovechild on October 08, 2010, 02:07:38 PM: I was going to recommend the GTX 460 as well!
This is actually a good comparison site if you want to see current hardware stacked up against other recent hardware:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/172?vs=156 (http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/172?vs=156)
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: midnight_blue on October 09, 2010, 09:48:39 AM: thx mr butt!! hopefully I will be doing the blowing away - lol...just got to wait for it to get here now...about two weeks they reckon...
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: midnight_blue on October 14, 2010, 04:36:01 AM: PC now dead...am awaiting delivery of new one, so will be offline for a week or so more...I cannot believe how much I miss the game...sound like a crack-head!! Catch you all in a twile...the GFs PC wont play it- bummer...Daniel.
Title: Re: pc dying the death
Post by: butt on October 14, 2010, 07:07:17 AM: Guess its good fortuine you ordered a replacment when you did. Will make the upgrade all the sweeter when it shows up.