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General Category => PC Upgrade and Repair => Topic started by: butt on April 01, 2017, 08:07:45 AM

Title: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: butt on April 01, 2017, 08:07:45 AM
Hell must have frozen over... High speed internet has finally made its way to us.  ;D
The utility guys said it would probably be another month or so before its ready for use.

Pretty happy about it. Have a few questions for those that have already made the switch.

I saw the cable they were laying, and its a single solid copper wire.

1) Will I need a new modem/router? 

2) Will I need to re wire the house w/ single strand coax? Or, do you still have ethernet cables going from router, to hardwired devices?

If I do need new hardware, suggestions welcome. If change is required, I'll want a device that is VPN capable.
Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: Eric on April 01, 2017, 11:11:32 AM
I would say yes to the new modem/router to be able to handle the increase in speed :)

modem/router connected to PC by cable everything else is connected by WiFi to modem/router.

Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: butt on April 01, 2017, 11:32:47 AM
I would say yes to the new modem/router to be able to handle the increase in speed :)

modem/router connected to PC by cable everything else is connected by WiFi to modem/router.

But, is the new router a different type of input cable? Or is it still a rj45 connector that we have on the dsl router/modem?


Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: Eric on April 01, 2017, 01:42:00 PM
no, its like this.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CABLE-2m-FOR-VIRGIN-MEDIA-TV-BROADBAND-TIVO-TV-WHITE-NEW-/251032337136?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CABLE-2m-FOR-VIRGIN-MEDIA-TV-BROADBAND-TIVO-TV-WHITE-NEW-/251032337136?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275)
Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: butt on April 01, 2017, 04:56:53 PM
no, its like this.


[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CABLE-2m-FOR-VIRGIN-MEDIA-TV-BROADBAND-TIVO-TV-WHITE-NEW-/251032337136?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CABLE-2m-FOR-VIRGIN-MEDIA-TV-BROADBAND-TIVO-TV-WHITE-NEW-/251032337136?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275[/url])


Ok, thx. That looks like coax.

Then from the router to your PC, does it use the lan cable?
Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: Eric on April 02, 2017, 06:44:16 AM
Yep, then U are good to go  :)
Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: butt on April 02, 2017, 09:22:34 AM
Ahh, cool.
Yeah, thats where I was confused. Guess I figured a different type of wire would be needed from the router/modem to the pc/device (to handle the higher speeds). Thought that was the reason for the larger single copper wire, vs cat 5.
Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: Groovechild on April 02, 2017, 01:53:54 PM
Hey Butt, typically you have the ISP run coax to the house (unless they do fiber, like they do with Verizon Fios, such as at my house, but the handoff that the give you is still coax from an ONT device they install, as that is typically what runs through the house). They will either include a DOCSIS 3 cablemodem, or require you to get one based on their list of approved devices. Verizon, for example, includes an Actiontec model that is a built-in router with wifi (but no VPN).
Your ISP may include one or you can get your own, something like (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320208 (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320208)) or a plethora of options. That's the one I have, and it has been good to me, but many routers are equally as good at different price points. You'll spend a little north of $150 typically with a built-in VPN server.
You can configure that router to use either wifi or CAT5 (usually they come with 4 gigabit ports). If you need more ports, you can get like a 12 port gigabit switch which is just plug and play into one of those ports, and those switches are dirt cheap these days.

Hope the rest of y'all doing well! Maybe I can finally get some free time soon and start gaming again!

Groovy
Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: butt on April 02, 2017, 06:24:19 PM
Hey Groove!
Happy you got the steam message. I did a steam client update and had to restart, wasnt sure if the message went through.

Yeah, not the fancy optic cable. Just a beefy 10 ga solid copper wire they laid this week. Guy said phone company would run a drop line to the house.

Yeah, dont want to get into a situation where I am paying a monthly "rental fee" from provider on their hardware.

Definitely want VPN enabled router, after change in congress this week. I have an asus dsl router with a vpn option, but never had the bandwidth to mess w/ it. I like the asus control panel, and the ease of software updates it does. But open to suggestions on other brands that have it all bundled in the same piece of hardware. 

Will hit you up for install help when the time comes.  Very happy to see you post. Take care.

ETA
What kind of range do you get on that router?
My asus router stinks, when it comes to signal strength at much greater than say 30 feet.


Groove,
This is from providers website on router requirements:

Quote
APPROVED MODEM SPECIFICATIONS

Recommends customers purchase a cable modem that meets the following requirements for the best experience:

DOCSIS 3.0 certified modem that has 24 channels down and 8 channels up (24x8) or higher.

As an alternative, you may purchase a modem with these minimum requirements based on speed:

    If your speed is less than 200Mbps get at least a DOCSIS 3.0 (8x4)
    If your speed is 200Mbps through 400Mbps get at least a  DOCSIS 3.0 (16x4)

MINIMUM MODEM REQUIREMENTS

Does not currently support customer-owned DOCSIS 3.1 modems. EURODOCSIS cable modems are not supported in the United States
Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: butt on December 03, 2018, 04:03:38 PM

Ok groovy

Wifie was asking about VPN this am. Working from home sometimes she has to access work stuff with info that must be kept private.
She saw an offer from avast for a 60 day trial for vpn service. I told her not to do anything till I talked to you.

1) Does encrypted VPN keep this type of data safe?

1a) Does ISP still see what shes doing?

2) And who watches the VPN provider? lol. As in, they could harvest that data just as easy as the next poindexter.
Or, get hacked and get everybodys data that way? I am confused!


3) Who do serious folks use for legitimate privacy, when picking a VPN service? 
Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: Groovechild on February 10, 2019, 06:49:30 AM
Hey Butt,

So regarding wifey accessing remote information, it depends on the type of access. If she uses Salesforce, for example, that connection is secured via SSL, so the ISP will know that your wife logged into Salesforce, but won't see what is being transmitted, they will just know her browsing history, not what is sent.

If you use a VPN service, the ISP will see you connect to a location in Iowa, for example, but won't see where you go after that. The VPN vendor, however if they get subpoenaed, can provide a transcript of where you went. Even though they say they do not (they don't want to goto jail either in case someone uses their service to setup some type of terrorist event). I can say with 99% certainty the NSA and government have a backchannel here, but if you're doing legitimate business, you're fine, since the government is unlikely to audit what you're doing, I would say odds are as high as being audited for taxes. Everyone is scared of being audited for personal taxes, but do you know anyone who has? I don't in 25 years of doing taxes. If you're trafficking children, you could still get caught (and I'm ok with the government having this kind of oversight, I know a lot of the bible belt disagrees with me).

Usually what is done to minimize what kind of traffic is going where is if the company uses a hardware VPN connection, where all your traffic goes through the corporate VPN, and all browsing and data transfer goes across that circuit. The ISP will see that you connected to yourcompanyvpn.com and that's it. The traffic afterwards if not usable. You can browse wherever you want, and the ISP will only see a connection to that VPN.

I think it's pricey but a couple of my tech friends who run their own businesses swear by purevpn. I think they're pricey, but can't 100% say they are better than others as I don't use them.

What do I use? Nothing. I don't care if the NSA knows that I like bukkake videos and have Xev Bellringer as my default pornhub search. I'm raising 3 kids; wifey's usually tired. I got nothing to hide.

But for legitimate business use, the company should really have some type of corporate VPN solution, I know AWS , Azure, Oracle have those as services. That really should be on the company to research and invest in that. If your wife is running her own small biz, then something like PureVPN would likely be the recommendation.

For personal use, some of my techie friends use NordVPN, but I also can't vouch for it as I don't use it.

One thing to bear in mind is that any VPN solution is an extra hop, so your internet speed will be slower. I don't think dramatically, but enough, in particular with latency. I wouldn't recommend gaming or streaming video across a VPN. By streaming I mean from your location in realtime for example, not watching Netflix. That should be fine as it will buffer/cache.
Title: Re: Internet Service Upgrade
Post by: butt on February 11, 2019, 04:42:40 PM
WORTH THE WAIT!!!!!!

You fuckin rock. i lol'd myself
Where to start?/?/?

You answered the primary need there. I'll tell her to contact her work for their vpn service. Yeah, its all 101% on the up n up. Works for a fiveo1cThree. Can tell more on TS, than can post here.

I hear you on not getting vpn for gaming for slow down of speed... If it will slow down for gaming/netflix, can vpn service be toggled off for gaming? As in, say I got a vpn for home use (not for her work stuff), for whatever, does it have to be on all the time? I know my router has a VPN feature of some sort, but dont know diddly about it, or how it works. 

I'll spend the next little while looking into the vpn companies you listed. I triple appreciate you taking the time to help out with this one. Your a champ.  :-*